• MENLA Deluxe Queen – $1,293.00
  • MENLA Private Queen Shared Bath – $1,176.00
  • MENLA Deluxe Double - Shared bath (Shared Room) – $969.00
  • MENLA Standard Single – $1,002.00
  • MENLA Standard Double (Shared Room) – $912.00
  • MENLA Standard Triple (Shared Room) – $852.00
  • MENLA Standard Quad (Shared Room) – $822.00
  • Shared Dorm Housing – $750.00
  • Camping – $720.00
  • Commuter – $660.00

Pricing includes Accommodations, Meals and Tuition

Location: Menla Mountain Retreat

Address: 375 Pantherkill Rd, Phoenicia NY 12464

[email protected]
845.688.6897 ext 0

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Shamans & Siddhas: Meeting at the Crossroads of Shamanism & Tantra

With Isa Gucciardi and Robert AF Thurman

October 4 - 7, 2018

This retreat focuses on the traditions of the “psychonauts,” explorers of the subtle realms of dream, death, and all “between” states. Such people are known as “shamans” in indigenous traditions and as “siddhas” or “adepts” in Buddhist and Hindu Tantric traditions.

Isa Gucciardi joins Robert Thurman in exploring the deep and vast dimensions of these traditions, focusing on our planetary welcoming of various forms that consciousness takes in this time of global crisis, as she has done from time immemorial. Shamans and siddha adepts provide us with resources from long-developed, time-tested positive sciences and arts that help us celebrate the blessings of reality and live meaningfully in the midst of the ups and downs of our daily lives ever more realistically and happily.

In this retreat, we will review the historic encounters between these two spiritual traditions from world indigenous and Indic regions and learn how they have informed one another from time immemorial. While steeped in philosophy and psychology, this retreat is also highly experiential in nature. We will explore methods of going inward drawn from both traditions including the Shamanic Journey and Indo-Tibetan Deity Meditation. The Shamanic Journey is an ancient and time-tested method that shamans around the world have used to develop a deep relationship with the powers of the Earth and Cosmos. Deity Meditation is a form of meditation that brings the meditator into an intimate understanding of the fields of wisdom, sensitivity, and power held by the deities of the Tibetan Buddhist pantheon. We will explore the role of ritual and ceremony in both contexts and learn what role ritual and ceremony provide in bringing forward the realizations, sensitivities, and powers that are the fruits of these deep forms of inner exploration.

We will not only learn the basics of the shaman’s journey but also meditate, dialogue together, and create and perform ceremonies in order to align ourselves with the power that these two traditions have provided humanity for millennia. Daily yoga will also be offered.

“This class brings together two powerhouse human beings of the most compassionate persuasion. It is a pleasure to hear these two esteemed doctors compare and contrast different points of view, all the while making clear the most powerful healing elements in any tradition combine wisdom and compassion.” –  J. Hengst

Select readings from Shamanic and Buddhist wisdom literatures are available by request, to prepare for the experience. Readings will be on hand at Menla for those of you who do not request them ahead of time.

From Shamanic side:
The Power of Myth by Joseph Campbell
Hero of a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell
The Shaman’s Way by Michael Harner
Soul Retrieval by Sandra Ingerman
Return to the Great Mother by Isa Gucciardi

From Buddhist side:
Transcendent Wisdom Sutra
Flower Ornament Sutra
Vimalakirti Sutra
White Tara Healing Meditations

To learn more about related topics via Distance Learning please click here

Retreat Schedule

Thursday October 4th

  • 3 – 8pm Check-in
  • 6 – 7 pm Dinner
  • 7:30pm Welcoming Program

Friday October 5th

  • 7 – 8am Nejang Tibetan Longevity Yoga
  • 8 – 9am Breakfast
  • 9:15am Morning Program
  • 12 – 1pm Lunch
  • 1 – 4pm Free time for Spa, Sauna & Steam
  • 4 – 6pm Afternoon Program
  • 6 – 7pm Dinner
  • 7:30pm Evening Program

Saturday October 6th

  • 7 – 8am Nejang Tibetan Longevity Yoga
  • 8 – 9am Breakfast
  • 9:15am – 12pm Morning Program
  • 12 – 1pm Lunch
  • 1 – 4pm Free time for Spa, Sauna & Steam
  • 4 – 6pm Afternoon Program
  • 6 – 7pm Dinner
  • 7:30pm Evening Program

Sunday October 7th

  • 7 – 8 am Nejang Tibetan Longevity Yoga
  • 8 – 9am Breakfast
  • 9:15am – 12pm Morning Program
  • 12 – 1pm Checkout & Lunch

Note: Schedule is subject to change at anytime

“It is neither cliche nor hyperbole to say that the pairing of these teachers, Isa Gucciardi and Robert Thurman,  is a tour de force of the twin jewels of wisdom and compassion. The experience of this workshop was a great homecoming for me–through its combination of profound esoteric practices and wisdom teachings, I felt I was finally empowered to begin to reclaim my relationship with the world.”

– Ingrid Miller



Isa Gucciardi
Isa Gucciardi, Ph.D., holds degrees and certificates in trans-personal psychology, cultural and linguistic anthropology, comparative religion, hypnotherapy, and transformational healing. She has spent over 30 years studying spiritual, therapeutic, and meditative techniques from around the world. Isa is the creator of the ground-breaking therapeutic model, Depth Hypnosis, and the Founding Director of the Foundation of the Sacred Stream. In addition to training hundreds of people to be spiritual counselors in Depth Hypnosis, she has taught thousands of students seeking personal growth in the Foundation of the Sacred Stream’s academic programs of Applied Shamanism, Applied Buddhist Psychology, Integrated Energy Medicine, and…
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Robert AF Thurman
Robert Thurman is Professor of Indo-Tibetan Buddhist Studies at Columbia University as well as co-founder and President of Tibet House US and it’s Menla Retreat & Spa in service of HH Dalai Lama & the people of Tibet. A close friend of the Dalai Lama’s for over 50 years, he is a leading world-wide lecturer on Tibetan Buddhism, passionate activist for the plight of the Tibetan people, skilled translator of Buddhist texts, and inspiring writer of popular Buddhist books. His most recent book is the 300 page graphic novel, Man of Peace: the Illustrated Life Story of the Dalai Lama of…
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